1 00:00:07,789 --> 00:00:06,019 we have breaking news a mass shooting at 2 00:00:24,679 --> 00:00:07,799 a country music concert on the Las Vegas 3 00:00:27,589 --> 00:00:24,689 Strip you were listening to hidden truth 4 00:00:30,740 --> 00:00:27,599 Las Vegas shooter with Jim Breslin find 5 00:00:34,070 --> 00:00:30,750 us at hidden truth show com follow us on 6 00:00:37,010 --> 00:00:34,080 facebook twitter and instagram at hidden 7 00:00:39,230 --> 00:00:37,020 truth show there's Jim Breslin 8 00:00:40,850 --> 00:00:39,240 welcome back to hidden truth Las Vegas 9 00:00:42,770 --> 00:00:40,860 shooter were excited to come back with a 10 00:00:45,110 --> 00:00:42,780 new episode of Las Vegas shooter to 11 00:00:47,210 --> 00:00:45,120 cover some recent developments it's been 12 00:00:48,980 --> 00:00:47,220 a few weeks since we last spoke to you 13 00:00:51,819 --> 00:00:48,990 about the Las Vegas shooting the Las 14 00:00:54,410 --> 00:00:51,829 Vegas police issued their final report 15 00:00:56,330 --> 00:00:54,420 so we're gonna go over that report with 16 00:00:59,300 --> 00:00:56,340 you and I'm also going to talk about 17 00:01:02,270 --> 00:00:59,310 that report with Tim bedwell you may 18 00:01:05,350 --> 00:01:02,280 recall Tim he ran for Clark County 19 00:01:08,170 --> 00:01:05,360 Sheriff against sheriff Lombardo our 20 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:08,180 favorite Clark County Sheriff and 21 00:01:13,969 --> 00:01:11,970 unfortunately lost Lombardo managed to 22 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:13,979 get the endorsement of the Las Vegas 23 00:01:17,930 --> 00:01:16,110 review-journal which was stunning to us 24 00:01:19,820 --> 00:01:17,940 considering that he had struck today 25 00:01:21,649 --> 00:01:19,830 media in every way he could from getting 26 00:01:24,620 --> 00:01:21,659 information about the shooting but got 27 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:24,630 their endorsement nonetheless he got the 28 00:01:29,149 --> 00:01:26,729 endorsement and money of all the hotel 29 00:01:31,370 --> 00:01:29,159 casinos in Las Vegas so bedwell really 30 00:01:33,740 --> 00:01:31,380 didn't have a chance but you're gonna 31 00:01:36,050 --> 00:01:33,750 hear what he has to say about the 32 00:01:38,810 --> 00:01:36,060 campaign what it was like to run against 33 00:01:42,859 --> 00:01:38,820 the juggernaut that was Lombardo plus 34 00:01:44,450 --> 00:01:42,869 the media plus the hotel casinos and 35 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:44,460 also gives his thoughts on the police 36 00:01:48,469 --> 00:01:47,040 report before we talk about the police 37 00:01:50,179 --> 00:01:48,479 report I want to remind everybody please 38 00:01:52,850 --> 00:01:50,189 if you haven't already make sure you 39 00:01:56,030 --> 00:01:52,860 subscribe to the show really important 40 00:01:57,649 --> 00:01:56,040 to our show to boost our subscribers so 41 00:01:59,990 --> 00:01:57,659 if you haven't subscribed please do so 42 00:02:03,109 --> 00:02:00,000 and also if you could go ahead and rate 43 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:03,119 the show for us I also want to just make 44 00:02:07,249 --> 00:02:05,610 a quick note to those of you who are Las 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:07,259 Vegas fans that have not been following 46 00:02:10,789 --> 00:02:09,090 the transgender movement we encourage 47 00:02:12,769 --> 00:02:10,799 you to check out hidden truth 48 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:12,779 transgender movement in particular 49 00:02:15,660 --> 00:02:14,370 there's a really important issue that 50 00:02:19,199 --> 00:02:15,670 we're covering right now is 51 00:02:21,180 --> 00:02:19,209 a b-29 43 in California this is about to 52 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:21,190 be signed by Governor Jerry Brown is 53 00:02:27,030 --> 00:02:23,890 gonna happen in a matter of days Jerry 54 00:02:29,370 --> 00:02:27,040 Brown the 1960s liberal is about to sign 55 00:02:31,979 --> 00:02:29,380 sign a bill that is gonna take away 56 00:02:34,860 --> 00:02:31,989 people's individual freedom the freedom 57 00:02:37,170 --> 00:02:34,870 of choice their freedom of speech the 58 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:37,180 freedom of religion the freedom of 59 00:02:44,130 --> 00:02:41,530 privacy a B 2943 says that an adult who 60 00:02:47,449 --> 00:02:44,140 wants to voluntarily speak with a 61 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:47,459 psychologist about possibly reducing 62 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:50,530 same-sex attractions or transgender 63 00:02:55,979 --> 00:02:53,410 feelings is not permitted to get that 64 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:55,989 therapy California is going to ban that 65 00:02:59,610 --> 00:02:57,850 individual from getting that therapy 66 00:03:01,380 --> 00:02:59,620 that person will have to go to another 67 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:01,390 state California would be the first 68 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:03,250 state in the country to pass us if it 69 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:05,850 does other states are sure to follow 70 00:03:09,870 --> 00:03:08,170 checkout hidden truth transgender 71 00:03:14,009 --> 00:03:09,880 movement as we cover that very important 72 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:14,019 issue so before we get into the bed well 73 00:03:17,910 --> 00:03:15,940 interview let me give you some of the 74 00:03:21,060 --> 00:03:17,920 highlights from the police report now 75 00:03:23,340 --> 00:03:21,070 the FBI has not released their final 76 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:23,350 report yet that date has now been moved 77 00:03:28,699 --> 00:03:25,120 back they're promising their report by 78 00:03:31,949 --> 00:03:28,709 the end of this year we did hear from 79 00:03:35,490 --> 00:03:31,959 Aaron rouse he heads up the FBI there 80 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:35,500 who came out and recently said that they 81 00:03:40,410 --> 00:03:38,170 do they do believe they will know the 82 00:03:41,819 --> 00:03:40,420 motive and release the motive when they 83 00:03:44,130 --> 00:03:41,829 released the report he said they will 84 00:03:47,009 --> 00:03:44,140 know it as well as you could without 85 00:03:48,810 --> 00:03:47,019 being inside the mind of paddock to the 86 00:03:50,849 --> 00:03:48,820 contrary the Las Vegas police say they 87 00:03:54,090 --> 00:03:50,859 don't know the motive and they are not 88 00:03:58,650 --> 00:03:54,100 sure will ever know the motive another 89 00:04:01,289 --> 00:03:58,660 very interesting note is that rouse 90 00:04:04,860 --> 00:04:01,299 specifically said that he does not see 91 00:04:07,289 --> 00:04:04,870 this as terrorism well when they issued 92 00:04:09,690 --> 00:04:07,299 the final report Lombardo was asked the 93 00:04:12,150 --> 00:04:09,700 question and he answered it quite 94 00:04:14,849 --> 00:04:12,160 differently here's what Lombardo had to 95 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:14,859 say I would personally call it a 96 00:04:20,039 --> 00:04:17,289 terrorist act it had an influence on a 97 00:04:24,180 --> 00:04:20,049 certain demographic of people intended 98 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:24,190 to cause harm to include injuries so 99 00:04:29,030 --> 00:04:26,860 Lombardo's claiming that it's terrorism 100 00:04:30,530 --> 00:04:29,040 simply because it was directed at 101 00:04:33,020 --> 00:04:30,540 a certain group of people and that it 102 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:33,030 was violence well I'm sorry sheriff but 103 00:04:38,300 --> 00:04:34,890 that does not meet the definition of 104 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:38,310 terrorism here's the official federal 105 00:04:43,010 --> 00:04:41,040 code definition of terrorism 106 00:04:45,470 --> 00:04:43,020 it's the unlawful use of force and 107 00:04:48,170 --> 00:04:45,480 violence against persons or property to 108 00:04:49,940 --> 00:04:48,180 intimidate or coerce a government the 109 00:04:52,130 --> 00:04:49,950 civilian population or any segment 110 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:52,140 thereof in furtherance of political or 111 00:04:56,750 --> 00:04:54,930 social objectives Lombardo has not 112 00:05:00,800 --> 00:04:56,760 identified any political or social 113 00:05:03,050 --> 00:05:00,810 objectives that paddock had he's just 114 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:03,060 saying generally speaking he committed 115 00:05:06,860 --> 00:05:04,490 violence on a large group of people 116 00:05:08,900 --> 00:05:06,870 furthermore it wasn't directed at a 117 00:05:10,940 --> 00:05:08,910 certain demographic of people Lombardo 118 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:10,950 might be implying that paddock was 119 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:14,610 targeting country music fans or whatever 120 00:05:19,010 --> 00:05:16,530 group he may think country music fans 121 00:05:23,450 --> 00:05:19,020 are a part of perhaps a conservative 122 00:05:24,740 --> 00:05:23,460 group but we know that panic almost did 123 00:05:27,620 --> 00:05:24,750 the same thing against the life is 124 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:27,630 beautiful festival in downtown Vegas a 125 00:05:31,580 --> 00:05:29,310 week prior in fact there was a lot of 126 00:05:33,290 --> 00:05:31,590 information in the report about him 127 00:05:36,770 --> 00:05:33,300 attempting to target that it turns out 128 00:05:37,970 --> 00:05:36,780 that all the same suitcases and so forth 129 00:05:40,490 --> 00:05:37,980 that we know that he brought into the 130 00:05:43,220 --> 00:05:40,500 Mandalay Bay he did the same thing at 131 00:05:45,890 --> 00:05:43,230 the Ogden downtown just a week earlier 132 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:45,900 he had a hotel room overlooking that 133 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:48,000 festival just a week earlier that's a 134 00:05:50,870 --> 00:05:49,770 totally different type of crowd as a 135 00:05:53,420 --> 00:05:50,880 much younger 136 00:05:55,790 --> 00:05:53,430 pop music crowd that is that life is 137 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:55,800 beautiful he was also targeting 138 00:06:00,170 --> 00:05:58,410 Lollapalooza in Chicago we also know 139 00:06:02,990 --> 00:06:00,180 that he was looking at the Santa Monica 140 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:03,000 Pier in Fenway Park as potential targets 141 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:04,890 so there's no particularly demographic 142 00:06:09,980 --> 00:06:07,110 that he was targeting so why is Lombardo 143 00:06:12,350 --> 00:06:09,990 calling this terrorism well there's only 144 00:06:16,250 --> 00:06:12,360 one obvious reason look to his donors 145 00:06:17,870 --> 00:06:16,260 are MGM one of his biggest donors is in 146 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:17,880 a lawsuit against the victims we told 147 00:06:23,390 --> 00:06:20,610 you about that last time they are suing 148 00:06:25,730 --> 00:06:23,400 the victims claiming that this was an 149 00:06:28,310 --> 00:06:25,740 act of terrorism and that because they 150 00:06:31,090 --> 00:06:28,320 had hired a security group that had a 151 00:06:34,430 --> 00:06:31,100 certification from homeland security as 152 00:06:36,650 --> 00:06:34,440 a security agency there were somehow 153 00:06:39,230 --> 00:06:36,660 insulated under the Safety Act from any 154 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:39,240 type of lawsuit in order for MGM to win 155 00:06:42,980 --> 00:06:41,610 that case they have to prove that this 156 00:06:46,530 --> 00:06:42,990 was terrorism 157 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:46,540 Lombardo just threw them a bone by 158 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:48,970 calling it terrorism when in fact the 159 00:06:52,290 --> 00:06:50,770 FBI is saying it's not terrorism and 160 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:52,300 it's clear by the definition of 161 00:06:59,640 --> 00:06:56,050 terrorism it is not Lombardo siding with 162 00:07:01,980 --> 00:06:59,650 the hotel casinos over the victims now 163 00:07:03,030 --> 00:07:01,990 let's go to some of the nuggets that we 164 00:07:05,610 --> 00:07:03,040 pulled out of the report 165 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:05,620 they had a preliminary report in January 166 00:07:08,730 --> 00:07:07,450 so this is an updated report from the 167 00:07:10,470 --> 00:07:08,740 preliminary report but I want to hit 168 00:07:13,170 --> 00:07:10,480 some of the highlights and the things 169 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:13,180 that are new in this report first of all 170 00:07:20,310 --> 00:07:16,090 they have a final count on the number 171 00:07:23,610 --> 00:07:20,320 that were shot and killed 471 people 172 00:07:25,410 --> 00:07:23,620 were shot it's just an incredible number 173 00:07:30,180 --> 00:07:25,420 when you stop and think about what 174 00:07:32,970 --> 00:07:30,190 paddock did 471 people were shot by 175 00:07:35,090 --> 00:07:32,980 paddock from the 32nd floor we know we 176 00:07:38,010 --> 00:07:35,100 shot off approximately a thousand rounds 177 00:07:39,810 --> 00:07:38,020 that goes to show you how much he was 178 00:07:43,020 --> 00:07:39,820 quote-unquote shooting fish in a barrel 179 00:07:45,540 --> 00:07:43,030 at that festival and how perfect his 180 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:45,550 positioning was in that room hovering 181 00:07:51,300 --> 00:07:48,250 right above the festival that the MGM 182 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:51,310 allowed him to rent and bring 22 bags 183 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:54,130 into despite knowing about this festival 184 00:08:00,420 --> 00:07:56,890 happening across the street almost half 185 00:08:04,290 --> 00:08:00,430 of the bullets actually hit someone 58 186 00:08:07,380 --> 00:08:04,300 of them died a couple things that 187 00:08:10,410 --> 00:08:07,390 Lombardo said he said that they believe 188 00:08:12,540 --> 00:08:10,420 that paddock was a narcissist who only 189 00:08:14,430 --> 00:08:12,550 cared about himself and those who could 190 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:14,440 help him we've certainly seen that and 191 00:08:19,650 --> 00:08:16,690 people that we've interviewed regarding 192 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:19,660 paddock but very other very little other 193 00:08:26,310 --> 00:08:23,170 information released of real intrigue of 194 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:26,320 regarding paddock or his motive in this 195 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:29,530 we did learn in talking directly to the 196 00:08:34,530 --> 00:08:32,410 police department that the hard drives 197 00:08:36,180 --> 00:08:34,540 are in the possession of the FBI and so 198 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:36,190 are the cell phones that the Las Vegas 199 00:08:40,290 --> 00:08:37,930 police never had possession of those 200 00:08:42,390 --> 00:08:40,300 items so whatever is being found on the 201 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:42,400 computers and on the cell phones only 202 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:45,310 the FBI has that hence the reason that 203 00:08:51,249 --> 00:08:46,810 the FBI is saying that they're gonna 204 00:08:54,980 --> 00:08:51,259 release a motive come December 205 00:08:57,259 --> 00:08:54,990 fake flowers in the vase that's still in 206 00:08:59,299 --> 00:08:57,269 the report that he bought fake flowers 207 00:09:02,749 --> 00:08:59,309 and a vase and a Walmart and brought 208 00:09:05,509 --> 00:09:02,759 them up into the room and we still don't 209 00:09:09,079 --> 00:09:05,519 know what those fake flowers are vase 210 00:09:11,299 --> 00:09:09,089 were for you talk about the hard drive 211 00:09:13,910 --> 00:09:11,309 and Lombardo explained that he doesn't 212 00:09:15,410 --> 00:09:13,920 know why the hard drive was taken out he 213 00:09:16,999 --> 00:09:15,420 said it could be for any number of 214 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:17,009 reasons but they there was a missing 215 00:09:21,470 --> 00:09:19,110 hard drive it has not has not been found 216 00:09:24,169 --> 00:09:21,480 Lombardo does speculate that perhaps he 217 00:09:25,939 --> 00:09:24,179 was trying to hide child porn but 218 00:09:27,859 --> 00:09:25,949 nonetheless they did find child porn 219 00:09:30,919 --> 00:09:27,869 apparently on the other hard drive so 220 00:09:34,210 --> 00:09:30,929 was he tried a couple child porn if he 221 00:09:36,980 --> 00:09:34,220 was he didn't do a very good job of it 222 00:09:39,019 --> 00:09:36,990 shockingly in the press conference 223 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:39,029 Lombardo said the same thing could 224 00:09:43,970 --> 00:09:43,290 happen again obviously that's a true 225 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:43,980 statement 226 00:09:46,549 --> 00:09:45,360 anything is possible anything could 227 00:09:49,609 --> 00:09:46,559 happen again but I thought it's pretty 228 00:09:51,919 --> 00:09:49,619 startling for the sheriff whose job is 229 00:09:53,619 --> 00:09:51,929 to protect the people of Las Vegas and 230 00:09:55,609 --> 00:09:53,629 the people who come there to just 231 00:09:59,179 --> 00:09:55,619 flippantly say that this could happen 232 00:10:01,069 --> 00:09:59,189 again but in fact as far as we've seen 233 00:10:03,439 --> 00:10:01,079 very little has been done very few 234 00:10:06,049 --> 00:10:03,449 changes have been made in Las Vegas 235 00:10:08,090 --> 00:10:06,059 certainly not the Mandalay Bay you can 236 00:10:10,549 --> 00:10:08,100 still go to their elevators you don't 237 00:10:12,379 --> 00:10:10,559 even need a room key to enter the 238 00:10:14,329 --> 00:10:12,389 elevator and you don't need a room key 239 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:14,339 to go up to any floor that you want to 240 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:15,689 go to at least that was the case when I 241 00:10:22,100 --> 00:10:18,170 visited there a few months ago so I 242 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:22,110 haven't seen anything significant that 243 00:10:27,410 --> 00:10:23,689 the hotel casinos have put in place 244 00:10:29,210 --> 00:10:27,420 since this incident of course the 245 00:10:31,819 --> 00:10:29,220 festival is not going to take place this 246 00:10:36,259 --> 00:10:31,829 year and there has not been a festival 247 00:10:38,660 --> 00:10:36,269 such as route 91 taking place in close 248 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:38,670 proximity to the hotels that probably is 249 00:10:44,090 --> 00:10:40,610 not going to happen again for some time 250 00:10:46,489 --> 00:10:44,100 we do learn that Patek did in fact 251 00:10:49,189 --> 00:10:46,499 target the fuel tanks that were very 252 00:10:51,079 --> 00:10:49,199 close to the festival and on the airport 253 00:10:54,619 --> 00:10:51,089 grounds and in fact he hit the fuel tank 254 00:10:58,929 --> 00:10:54,629 twice fortunately the fuel tank did not 255 00:11:02,119 --> 00:10:58,939 blow up we got clarification regarding 256 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:02,129 Hendrix this applies to Lombardo's 257 00:11:07,429 --> 00:11:04,649 cover-up that we talked to Bedwell 258 00:11:09,049 --> 00:11:07,439 about lombardo delayed and delayed and 259 00:11:10,819 --> 00:11:09,059 delayed and giving out information and 260 00:11:14,359 --> 00:11:10,829 most of the information he did not give 261 00:11:16,369 --> 00:11:14,369 out until after the election and now we 262 00:11:18,590 --> 00:11:16,379 learned why because we learned that 263 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:18,600 despite everything that he had said to 264 00:11:24,980 --> 00:11:20,910 the contrary in fact Las Vegas police 265 00:11:27,439 --> 00:11:24,990 were in the Mandalay Bay one floor below 266 00:11:28,989 --> 00:11:27,449 the shooting for four to five minutes 267 00:11:31,309 --> 00:11:28,999 during the shooting 268 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:31,319 Lombardo never disclosed this during any 269 00:11:34,519 --> 00:11:32,730 of his press conferences or in the 270 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:34,529 original police report the police report 271 00:11:38,809 --> 00:11:37,410 that came out before the election but 272 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:38,819 the police report that has come out 273 00:11:44,299 --> 00:11:41,850 after the election now we learned in the 274 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:44,309 report that two officers Hendrix and 275 00:11:51,769 --> 00:11:48,050 barsen were in fact on the 31st floor at 276 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:51,779 2211 that's eleven minutes after 10:00 277 00:11:59,119 --> 00:11:55,050 o'clock and he continued to fire until 278 00:12:01,970 --> 00:11:59,129 either 22 15 or 20 2:16 we know that 279 00:12:04,189 --> 00:12:01,980 Hendrix based on his own reporting said 280 00:12:06,650 --> 00:12:04,199 that he froze on the 31st floor 281 00:12:09,079 --> 00:12:06,660 remember Lombardo defends Hendrix 282 00:12:11,169 --> 00:12:09,089 freezing on the 31st floor saying that 283 00:12:13,220 --> 00:12:11,179 you don't bring a knife to a gunfight 284 00:12:15,290 --> 00:12:13,230 referring to the fact that all Hendrix 285 00:12:17,389 --> 00:12:15,300 had when it's a handgun and it was clear 286 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:17,399 that Patek had a lot more well you'll 287 00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:19,730 hear what bedwell has to say about that 288 00:12:25,669 --> 00:12:22,889 we also learned in the report that to 289 00:12:27,860 --> 00:12:25,679 Mandalay Bay security guards were on the 290 00:12:30,769 --> 00:12:27,870 same elevator with Hendricks Hendricks 291 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:30,779 got off on 31 they got off on 32 they 292 00:12:37,489 --> 00:12:34,050 were both armed so they were on the 32nd 293 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:37,499 floor with Patek while the shooting was 294 00:12:42,919 --> 00:12:40,649 going on and they failed to take any 295 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:42,929 type of action as far as we know or is 296 00:12:50,210 --> 00:12:43,649 in the report 297 00:12:52,069 --> 00:12:50,220 to try to stop the shooter one oddity is 298 00:12:55,340 --> 00:12:52,079 that one of those security guards had 299 00:12:57,379 --> 00:12:55,350 told the FBI en Las Vegas police that 300 00:13:00,319 --> 00:12:57,389 Hendricks had gotten off with him on the 301 00:13:02,539 --> 00:13:00,329 32nd floor that contradicted what 302 00:13:04,879 --> 00:13:02,549 Hendricks had said Hendricks has said he 303 00:13:06,919 --> 00:13:04,889 got off on the 31st floor well that's 304 00:13:09,019 --> 00:13:06,929 now been clarified in the security 305 00:13:11,119 --> 00:13:09,029 officer is now saying that well I 306 00:13:13,850 --> 00:13:11,129 thought that Hendricks got off with me 307 00:13:15,949 --> 00:13:13,860 on the 32nd floor so he definitively 308 00:13:18,110 --> 00:13:15,959 told the FBI that Hendricks got off with 309 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:18,120 him on the 32nd floor now he's saying he 310 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:18,570 thinks 311 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:20,850 got off with him we know based on body 312 00:13:25,700 --> 00:13:22,650 cam that Hendrix got off on the 31st 313 00:13:27,650 --> 00:13:25,710 floor why the security supervisor got 314 00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:27,660 this wrong was there any intent behind 315 00:13:31,010 --> 00:13:29,340 it was he trying to hide something I 316 00:13:32,570 --> 00:13:31,020 don't know what he would have been 317 00:13:34,790 --> 00:13:32,580 trying to hide by that but it seems like 318 00:13:36,110 --> 00:13:34,800 an odd thing to get wrong in that type 319 00:13:38,690 --> 00:13:36,120 of a moment you would think that you 320 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:38,700 would know who you got off the elevator 321 00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:40,830 with especially did you or did you not 322 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:42,900 get off with a Las Vegas police officer 323 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:43,440 or not 324 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:46,050 turns out the story now is that he got 325 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:48,210 off with only a fellow Mandalay Bay 326 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:52,530 security officer the report has 24 327 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:56,250 minutes of missing time it takes over an 328 00:13:59,930 --> 00:13:58,410 hour for the police to finally breach 329 00:14:02,530 --> 00:13:59,940 the door according to the report they 330 00:14:07,370 --> 00:14:02,540 entered pattex room at 30 331 00:14:09,890 --> 00:14:07,380 23:22 ting stopped at 20 to 15 or 16 so 332 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:09,900 over an hour after the shooting stopped 333 00:14:15,170 --> 00:14:13,530 the police finally enter the room but 334 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:15,180 what's interesting is in laying out the 335 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:17,250 timeline the minute-by-minute timeline 336 00:14:21,650 --> 00:14:20,010 there's a 24 minute period there that 337 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:21,660 police don't even explain what was going 338 00:14:27,620 --> 00:14:25,410 on what took the police so long and what 339 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:27,630 made them so casual in spending this 340 00:14:31,970 --> 00:14:30,450 hour to get into the room if you go on 341 00:14:33,530 --> 00:14:31,980 our YouTube channel we've been posting 342 00:14:35,090 --> 00:14:33,540 more and more videos on the Las Vegas 343 00:14:37,190 --> 00:14:35,100 shooting so check out our YouTube 344 00:14:38,810 --> 00:14:37,200 channel hidden truchaut you'll see the 345 00:14:40,850 --> 00:14:38,820 body cam video where one of the police 346 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:40,860 officers takes time to go to the 347 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:43,770 bathroom and even wash his hands during 348 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:45,120 this hour he was one of the first to 349 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:48,090 enter the room why were the police so 350 00:14:55,580 --> 00:14:51,930 casual I haven't seen this in the report 351 00:14:58,970 --> 00:14:55,590 but one possible explanation and I've 352 00:15:01,820 --> 00:14:58,980 never heard the police say this but one 353 00:15:04,610 --> 00:15:01,830 of the Mandalay Bay security officers 354 00:15:07,610 --> 00:15:04,620 say that he heard the last volley of 355 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:07,620 shots coming from the room and then he 356 00:15:13,310 --> 00:15:10,920 heard a single shot that would appear to 357 00:15:16,700 --> 00:15:13,320 be the single shot of Patek committing 358 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:16,710 suicide only the Mandalay Bay security 359 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:19,680 officer reports hearing that shot but 360 00:15:24,230 --> 00:15:22,170 it's very possible that that was the 361 00:15:27,380 --> 00:15:24,240 shot more Patek killed himself so Patek 362 00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:27,390 in fact ended his shooting and then 363 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:28,560 immediately killed himself 364 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:30,540 which means that he didn't kill himself 365 00:15:35,810 --> 00:15:32,810 under any significant 366 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:35,820 that paddock perhaps had completed his 367 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:38,130 final orgy of violence and was done and 368 00:15:43,730 --> 00:15:41,610 shot himself did the police know that he 369 00:15:45,500 --> 00:15:43,740 had shot himself how could they possibly 370 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:45,510 know even if the police had heard that 371 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:46,770 single shot there's no way for you to 372 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:48,450 know that he had killed himself so it 373 00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:50,250 still doesn't make sense that the police 374 00:15:57,140 --> 00:15:53,880 would be so casual in taking their time 375 00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:57,150 in clearing floors etc not knowing who's 376 00:16:03,410 --> 00:16:00,720 in that room and when the firing could 377 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:03,420 start again is it possible the police 378 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:07,050 knew who was in the room that they knew 379 00:16:11,770 --> 00:16:08,730 it was just paddock and that he had 380 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:11,780 killed himself how would they know that 381 00:16:17,090 --> 00:16:14,490 couple of other interesting notes we we 382 00:16:18,950 --> 00:16:17,100 note that one of the bellman says that 383 00:16:22,250 --> 00:16:18,960 paddock tipped him $5.00 to take his 384 00:16:23,210 --> 00:16:22,260 bags that ends speculation that paddock 385 00:16:25,340 --> 00:16:23,220 was a big tipper 386 00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:25,350 or that the reason Mandalay Bay looked 387 00:16:29,660 --> 00:16:26,880 the other way was because of big tips 388 00:16:32,330 --> 00:16:29,670 apparently he only took $5 and that was 389 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:32,340 a typical tip from paddock we also know 390 00:16:38,830 --> 00:16:35,610 that one of the maids reported that she 391 00:16:41,450 --> 00:16:38,840 saw at least five bags in paddocks room 392 00:16:45,410 --> 00:16:41,460 so hopefully this is something that is 393 00:16:47,630 --> 00:16:45,420 changing now that if if a maid sees an 394 00:16:50,540 --> 00:16:47,640 unusual number of bags in a room that 395 00:16:52,370 --> 00:16:50,550 she reports this obviously five bags is 396 00:16:53,990 --> 00:16:52,380 not a lot of bags she said she saw at 397 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:54,000 least five bags but there was just one 398 00:16:58,670 --> 00:16:56,850 guy in the room should that raise a red 399 00:17:02,600 --> 00:16:58,680 flag enough to at least report it and 400 00:17:04,699 --> 00:17:02,610 have someone come up and inspect based 401 00:17:06,380 --> 00:17:04,709 on that when it's a high-roller 402 00:17:08,690 --> 00:17:06,390 you kind of doubt that they're gonna 403 00:17:14,329 --> 00:17:08,700 want to inspect the high-rollers room as 404 00:17:15,860 --> 00:17:14,339 was the case with paddock so you can 405 00:17:18,199 --> 00:17:15,870 check out the full report go to our 406 00:17:20,449 --> 00:17:18,209 website hidden truchaut comm you can 407 00:17:22,970 --> 00:17:20,459 check out the full report remember 408 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:22,980 please subscribe to the podcast if you 409 00:17:27,710 --> 00:17:25,290 haven't already now let's go to our 410 00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:27,720 interview with Tim Bedwell where we're 411 00:17:32,810 --> 00:17:31,440 going to talk about the 31st floor what 412 00:17:34,850 --> 00:17:32,820 those officers should have done why it 413 00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:34,860 took over an hour and most importantly 414 00:17:41,030 --> 00:17:38,220 the Lombardo cover-up and what it felt 415 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:41,040 like to run against the guy covering up 416 00:17:45,290 --> 00:17:43,410 facts while you're trying to expose it 417 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:45,300 with a media that doesn't seem to want 418 00:17:52,399 --> 00:17:46,320 to tell the story 419 00:17:55,159 --> 00:17:52,409 I want to start with this issue of the 420 00:17:57,710 --> 00:17:55,169 Las Vegas police being on the 31st floor 421 00:18:00,379 --> 00:17:57,720 during the shooting I was interviewed 422 00:18:02,810 --> 00:18:00,389 when that information first came out on 423 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:02,820 John and Ken radio show here in Los 424 00:18:09,529 --> 00:18:06,090 Angeles and I just flat out called it a 425 00:18:13,519 --> 00:18:09,539 police cover-up because it seemed to me 426 00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:13,529 that the delay in releasing materials 427 00:18:18,860 --> 00:18:16,710 etc and not releasing the information 428 00:18:22,730 --> 00:18:18,870 which proved that the Las Vegas police 429 00:18:24,919 --> 00:18:22,740 were in fact on the 31st floor listening 430 00:18:28,759 --> 00:18:24,929 to the shooting for at least four 431 00:18:31,159 --> 00:18:28,769 minutes was was was now proven it ends 432 00:18:34,009 --> 00:18:31,169 we didn't learn about that until after 433 00:18:36,759 --> 00:18:34,019 the election so am I going too far to 434 00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:36,769 call this a cover-up 435 00:18:45,049 --> 00:18:41,840 well it's interesting the the 436 00:18:48,350 --> 00:18:45,059 coincidence that it wasn't until after 437 00:18:50,659 --> 00:18:48,360 he won the primary that this information 438 00:18:54,519 --> 00:18:50,669 was put out though they knew all of this 439 00:18:57,740 --> 00:18:54,529 for a very long time in fact I would say 440 00:19:01,249 --> 00:18:57,750 this information gives us a better 441 00:19:04,249 --> 00:19:01,259 understanding of why the timeline and so 442 00:19:07,310 --> 00:19:04,259 forth way back in the same month when it 443 00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:07,320 happened in October after it happened 444 00:19:13,070 --> 00:19:09,600 the sheriff was having trouble at the 445 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:13,080 time line right and it seems like this 446 00:19:20,419 --> 00:19:16,110 information really would have narrowed 447 00:19:24,259 --> 00:19:20,429 and defined the timeline pretty clearly 448 00:19:26,499 --> 00:19:24,269 so I would suggest maybe they didn't 449 00:19:29,450 --> 00:19:26,509 want to use this with regard to 450 00:19:31,820 --> 00:19:29,460 evaluating the timeline whether I call 451 00:19:35,180 --> 00:19:31,830 that a cover-up or not I just leave that 452 00:19:38,090 --> 00:19:35,190 to people who want to better make their 453 00:19:39,470 --> 00:19:38,100 own make their own conclusion on it you 454 00:19:43,519 --> 00:19:39,480 may not call it a cover-up they just 455 00:19:45,769 --> 00:19:43,529 didn't want people to know well 456 00:19:47,330 --> 00:19:45,779 obviously there was a lot of information 457 00:19:49,789 --> 00:19:47,340 that was dumped to the day after the 458 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:49,799 primary and this is some of the stuff 459 00:19:53,539 --> 00:19:51,690 that came out after the primary they had 460 00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:53,549 this information long before that they 461 00:19:59,119 --> 00:19:55,440 began releasing information or that a 462 00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:59,129 month before the primary under the court 463 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:00,000 order you know 464 00:20:05,060 --> 00:20:03,090 third court order to have them put the 465 00:20:06,770 --> 00:20:05,070 information out they finally started 466 00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:06,780 giving out information but they did it 467 00:20:11,030 --> 00:20:07,830 in a fashion that was pretty 468 00:20:17,150 --> 00:20:11,040 overwhelming and they didn't put this 469 00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:17,160 information in that bash do you believe 470 00:20:23,300 --> 00:20:20,880 that his delay the the police delay in 471 00:20:25,580 --> 00:20:23,310 providing all this information and in 472 00:20:28,970 --> 00:20:25,590 particular the evidence of the police 473 00:20:34,670 --> 00:20:28,980 being on the 31st floor was in order to 474 00:20:37,580 --> 00:20:34,680 get past the primary the sheriff refused 475 00:20:40,250 --> 00:20:37,590 to comment at all about the shooting or 476 00:20:43,670 --> 00:20:40,260 the investigation any time after January 477 00:20:46,060 --> 00:20:43,680 I think and the fact that they were 478 00:20:49,790 --> 00:20:46,070 ordered to put out information and they 479 00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:49,800 obviously purposely decided that this 480 00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:51,600 was information they would hold for 481 00:20:54,530 --> 00:20:53,220 after the primary means that's 482 00:20:57,380 --> 00:20:54,540 information they didn't want to have 483 00:21:01,070 --> 00:20:57,390 public the voting public to have on 484 00:21:03,230 --> 00:21:01,080 Election Day did you ever have the 485 00:21:04,820 --> 00:21:03,240 opportunity to confront Lombardo during 486 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:04,830 the campaign regarding his handling of 487 00:21:10,460 --> 00:21:08,250 the investigation you know I saw the 488 00:21:13,460 --> 00:21:10,470 sheriff three times he wouldn't speak to 489 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:13,470 me any of those times we worked really 490 00:21:17,930 --> 00:21:15,570 hard to try to get a debate together 491 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:17,940 there was a town-hall put on he refused 492 00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:21,330 to to show with that I did everything I 493 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:24,660 could to try to engage the sheriff so 494 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:27,450 that you know the electoral process is 495 00:21:33,650 --> 00:21:30,930 the is the place where we often find out 496 00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:33,660 what elected officials do and and they 497 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:35,760 can be confronted about things that they 498 00:21:39,890 --> 00:21:38,370 feel uncomfortable with but for the 499 00:21:42,650 --> 00:21:39,900 electoral process to work in that 500 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:42,660 fashion you have to get that elected 501 00:21:47,180 --> 00:21:45,690 incumbent to come somewhere and be asked 502 00:21:49,130 --> 00:21:47,190 the questions and he refused to do that 503 00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:49,140 so let's try and take this one piece at 504 00:21:54,050 --> 00:21:49,440 a time 505 00:21:58,490 --> 00:21:54,060 as far as Lombardo knowing that Hendrix 506 00:22:01,040 --> 00:21:58,500 invar s'en were on the 31st floor during 507 00:22:05,750 --> 00:22:01,050 the shooting he would have known that in 508 00:22:07,730 --> 00:22:05,760 your opinion when well he would have 509 00:22:10,669 --> 00:22:07,740 known it as soon as the initial report 510 00:22:13,230 --> 00:22:10,679 was being completed to brief him on what 511 00:22:14,670 --> 00:22:13,240 had happened 512 00:22:17,820 --> 00:22:14,680 this is information that was in the 513 00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:17,830 report the officer completed he they 514 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:20,110 would obviously have interviewed first 515 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:22,690 the officers who were first in the 516 00:22:27,630 --> 00:22:25,510 Mandalay Bay and going up the you know 517 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:27,640 the officer and his trainee were the for 518 00:22:33,870 --> 00:22:31,690 the first Metro officers to go up they 519 00:22:35,670 --> 00:22:33,880 would have been debriefed immediately 520 00:22:39,050 --> 00:22:35,680 their information would have been 521 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:39,060 critical to the timeline and critical to 522 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:41,850 briefing anyone the sheriff 523 00:22:46,410 --> 00:22:44,710 federal investigators or anyone else as 524 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:46,420 to what the conclusions that the Metro 525 00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:48,610 Police Department are at any specific 526 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:52,240 point so let me open is there any doubt 527 00:22:56,820 --> 00:22:54,250 that Lombardo would have known that 528 00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:56,830 information at the time of one of those 529 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:00,880 early press conferences well I don't 530 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:02,290 necessarily think he would have had it 531 00:23:08,340 --> 00:23:05,760 on that night or maybe even the next day 532 00:23:10,770 --> 00:23:08,350 but by the time three or four days had 533 00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:10,780 gone by he'd had to have been briefed 534 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:14,710 several times and if if the information 535 00:23:19,410 --> 00:23:17,010 about the first officers on scene 536 00:23:21,450 --> 00:23:19,420 actually not on scene where the people 537 00:23:23,730 --> 00:23:21,460 were going down across the street from 538 00:23:26,580 --> 00:23:23,740 Mendeley Bay but actually in Mandalay 539 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:26,590 Bay where the perpetrator was if someone 540 00:23:30,990 --> 00:23:28,630 had that information which they would 541 00:23:34,010 --> 00:23:31,000 have to have and they didn't provide it 542 00:23:36,930 --> 00:23:34,020 to the sheriff they would be incompetent 543 00:23:39,060 --> 00:23:36,940 so either the sheriff got the 544 00:23:41,010 --> 00:23:39,070 information or the sheriff should have 545 00:23:43,650 --> 00:23:41,020 fired somebody for not giving it to him 546 00:23:45,450 --> 00:23:43,660 and as far as I know yeah I mean I point 547 00:23:48,690 --> 00:23:45,460 out there was a lot to do about the 548 00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:48,700 timeline and when was Campos shot 549 00:23:54,590 --> 00:23:51,310 when did Mandalay Bay security respond 550 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:54,600 when did Las Vegas police respond and 551 00:24:02,010 --> 00:23:58,090 the first responders were Hendrickson 552 00:24:04,140 --> 00:24:02,020 var sin' so it seems to me obvious that 553 00:24:06,420 --> 00:24:04,150 he would have known that and he also 554 00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:06,430 would have known when it was they were 555 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:08,910 on the radio on the 31st floor 556 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:12,130 corresponding with police dispatch about 557 00:24:18,090 --> 00:24:14,170 the fact that they were on the 31st 558 00:24:19,710 --> 00:24:18,100 floor right this is these are not facts 559 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:19,720 that would have been buried somehow an 560 00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:21,930 investigation by you know in it urgently 561 00:24:27,270 --> 00:24:26,260 these are this is the beginning of the 562 00:24:29,850 --> 00:24:27,280 timeline 563 00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:29,860 people were being shot we have officers 564 00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:31,710 in the building we have officers 565 00:24:37,050 --> 00:24:34,150 identifying from the ground where the 566 00:24:38,850 --> 00:24:37,060 fires coming from the hotel knows it's 567 00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:38,860 the 32nd floor of the hotel knows the 568 00:24:44,670 --> 00:24:42,400 room number and we have officers one 569 00:24:47,070 --> 00:24:44,680 floor below reporting what they're 570 00:24:47,910 --> 00:24:47,080 seeing on the radio that doesn't get 571 00:24:50,550 --> 00:24:47,920 overlooked 572 00:24:53,820 --> 00:24:50,560 so this fax had to have been in part of 573 00:24:56,940 --> 00:24:53,830 the early briefings right so Lombardo 574 00:24:58,590 --> 00:24:56,950 you know even Lombardo I bought me to 575 00:25:00,210 --> 00:24:58,600 use the word lied to the public you 576 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:00,220 probably don't want to use that word but 577 00:25:04,850 --> 00:25:02,410 would you say he misled the public by 578 00:25:07,890 --> 00:25:04,860 not sharing that information with them 579 00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:07,900 well let me be totally clear I believe 580 00:25:13,710 --> 00:25:12,190 that the sheriff is remiss in the way 581 00:25:17,580 --> 00:25:13,720 that he's putting out any of this 582 00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:17,590 information because the court order is 583 00:25:21,870 --> 00:25:19,990 to put out documents and so well sorry 584 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:21,880 to hold on a second I want to stay with 585 00:25:26,220 --> 00:25:23,890 you if you're gonna of these early press 586 00:25:27,930 --> 00:25:26,230 conferences because he had multiple 587 00:25:30,210 --> 00:25:27,940 press conferences over that first week 588 00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:30,220 and you and I agree there's no question 589 00:25:35,010 --> 00:25:32,470 that he would have been aware that 590 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:35,020 Hendrix and waar Tsin were on the 31st 591 00:25:39,780 --> 00:25:38,050 floor during the shooting and he never 592 00:25:43,260 --> 00:25:39,790 puts that into the timeline in any of 593 00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:43,270 those press conferences and that's 594 00:25:48,990 --> 00:25:46,000 that's definitely a problem the timeline 595 00:25:51,090 --> 00:25:49,000 is is critical the first officers on 596 00:25:53,490 --> 00:25:51,100 scene would have been critical now I 597 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:53,500 don't I don't speculate the sheriff 598 00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:55,450 should have in the first few days come 599 00:25:59,580 --> 00:25:57,520 out and said you know we had an officer 600 00:26:03,450 --> 00:25:59,590 a floor below but but in his own words 601 00:26:04,890 --> 00:26:03,460 he froze and was afraid to go up and 602 00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:04,900 confront the threat 603 00:26:09,690 --> 00:26:06,310 I don't know that he'd want to get up 604 00:26:12,330 --> 00:26:09,700 and say that in an early briefing but I 605 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:12,340 think that they should should have 606 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:15,010 certainly clarified that within a couple 607 00:26:21,150 --> 00:26:18,490 of weeks I mean maybe I'm out in 608 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:21,160 parkland it came out that there was a 609 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:24,490 curity guard there who failed to really 610 00:26:27,570 --> 00:26:26,170 respond and that came out immediately 611 00:26:28,260 --> 00:26:27,580 what why wouldn't this come out 612 00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:28,270 immediately 613 00:26:33,540 --> 00:26:31,630 why even two weeks well in parkland not 614 00:26:35,910 --> 00:26:33,550 only did an officer not respond to the 615 00:26:37,860 --> 00:26:35,920 four officers showed up and didn't 616 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,870 respond but the reason that that got 617 00:26:40,430 --> 00:26:39,520 broke was because there was a helicopter 618 00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:40,440 that 619 00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:48,360 Parkland police to hide the information 620 00:26:54,050 --> 00:26:52,110 as Lombardo did absolutely not nobody 621 00:26:56,450 --> 00:26:54,060 should hide this and in parkland it 622 00:26:59,120 --> 00:26:56,460 would it goes to the the timeline and 623 00:27:02,120 --> 00:26:59,130 the the lack of a confronting the 624 00:27:03,530 --> 00:27:02,130 shooter quickly and actually on the 625 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:03,540 October first shooting it's the same 626 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:05,370 saying we don't know how many of the 627 00:27:11,420 --> 00:27:07,470 fifty eight people that died had already 628 00:27:12,830 --> 00:27:11,430 been shot but there was still active 629 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:12,840 shooting going on for several minutes 630 00:27:17,180 --> 00:27:14,970 when we had people one floor below who 631 00:27:19,130 --> 00:27:17,190 could have if nothing else gone up and 632 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:19,140 distracted the shooter which we only 633 00:27:28,130 --> 00:27:23,850 find out seven months eight months after 634 00:27:31,820 --> 00:27:28,140 the shooting right we find out after he 635 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:31,830 literally find out in within a few days 636 00:27:37,940 --> 00:27:35,490 as uh primarily what word are you 637 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:37,950 willing to use regarding Lombardo and 638 00:27:41,030 --> 00:27:39,450 what he had to say in those press 639 00:27:44,060 --> 00:27:41,040 conferences in the week following 640 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:44,070 regarding his failure to inform the 641 00:27:50,150 --> 00:27:47,730 public of this fact well I don't think 642 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:50,160 the sheriff was I don't think the 643 00:27:54,650 --> 00:27:52,050 sheriff should have been up as as much 644 00:27:56,450 --> 00:27:54,660 as he was doing the talking particularly 645 00:27:58,250 --> 00:27:56,460 in light of the fact that he knew early 646 00:28:00,860 --> 00:27:58,260 on he was giving out information that 647 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:00,870 was wrong and proven wrong within a few 648 00:28:07,370 --> 00:28:05,250 days so if the sheriff wasn't going to 649 00:28:08,990 --> 00:28:07,380 clarify what happened which still hasn't 650 00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:09,000 been done you know what let's keep in 651 00:28:13,610 --> 00:28:11,640 mind Jim we still don't know exactly 652 00:28:15,050 --> 00:28:13,620 what the timeline is there's still you 653 00:28:16,730 --> 00:28:15,060 you know if you google it you find a 654 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:16,740 bunch of different possibilities but the 655 00:28:22,250 --> 00:28:18,840 sheriff has never released a definitive 656 00:28:24,350 --> 00:28:22,260 report so well but the preliminary 657 00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:24,360 report Olympus but the preliminary 658 00:28:30,170 --> 00:28:26,760 report does walk through a 659 00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:30,180 minute-by-minute timeline I know it's 660 00:28:33,980 --> 00:28:31,440 not the final report but it's a 661 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:33,990 preliminary report and that doesn't 662 00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:36,810 mention Hendrickson parson being on the 663 00:28:41,030 --> 00:28:39,390 31st floor which is what I was just 664 00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:41,040 getting ready to say when you started 665 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:43,260 into the preliminary report so we know 666 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:45,330 all the facts have never been given to 667 00:28:50,810 --> 00:28:47,970 us in a comprehensive report we mode we 668 00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:50,820 know that just by that one issue that 669 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:54,070 officers were a floor down frozen 670 00:29:00,960 --> 00:28:57,490 and did not go up and and and it 671 00:29:03,770 --> 00:29:00,970 so the honestly Jim what really needs to 672 00:29:06,990 --> 00:29:03,780 happen is the public lead needs to know 673 00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:07,000 what the potential ramifications were of 674 00:29:12,660 --> 00:29:10,720 the delay how how much of this may be he 675 00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:12,670 was gonna shoot maybe he had hit 676 00:29:17,610 --> 00:29:14,200 everyone who was going to hit and going 677 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:17,620 on to the gas you know containers or 678 00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:20,710 something but the fact is that we we 679 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:22,720 don't know all we can do is speculate 680 00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:24,850 our conversation right now Jim is based 681 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:26,590 on the fact that we don't have a 682 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:30,090 definitive report to look at and but but 683 00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:32,890 delays potentially there's two delays 684 00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:34,990 that we need to think and talk about 685 00:29:40,770 --> 00:29:38,350 though one is the delay by Hendrix being 686 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:40,780 on 31 while he's hearing shots fired we 687 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:43,690 know in the last four minutes minutes 688 00:29:49,470 --> 00:29:46,690 Patek was killing people then we have a 689 00:29:53,510 --> 00:29:49,480 second delay where it takes over an hour 690 00:29:56,810 --> 00:29:53,520 for the police to breach the door so